Last week I upgraded my 2 year old Blackberry to the latest BlackBerry Curve 8310. So far I am pretty happy with it. I spend about an hour to customize it to my needs. The Voice Dialing is a great feature. Unlike older phones it does not require you to record all names, but it uses speech recognition on your existing address book.
The key new feature of the 8310 however is the integrated GPS. I noticed on Internet forums that a number of people have challenges using the GPS with Google Maps. I guess that’s not surprising since RIM does not advertise this feature, pushing instead the paid for maps and direction service from TeleNav. After some tinkering I have good news. Free Google Maps works great with the integrated GPS and here is how I got it to work:
1) Make sure that the GPS is working and has connection to satellites. Go to Options -> Advanced Options -> GPS -> select the menu and choose “Refresh GPS”. The display will tell you the number of satellites it can reach and your location. I noticed it does not work in my office in San Jose or in close range to high rise buildings.
2) Download Google Maps from google.com/gmm (using the Blackberry browser) and follow the instructions to install it on your Blackberry (I have Google Maps version 2.0.1). Do not use the Google Suite installer for Blackberry (which includes additional Google apps), since according to some reports has a different Google Maps version which does not work with the internal GPS.
3) Go to Options -> Applications -> Google Maps -> select the menu and choose “Edit Permissions”; Select connections and select the menu to expand it. Make sure you allow “Location (GPS)” and “Carrier Internet” connections for the app.
4) Save the changes. Go back the applications menu and start Google Maps. Hit “0″ and it should now show a blinking point which indicates your current location.


62 comments
Comments feed for this article
January 10th, 2008 at 1:00 am
Pingback from linkblog: Jan 09 | Jackson Miller
May 19th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Pingback from GPS on 8310 - BlackBerryForums.com : Your Number One BlackBerry Community
May 19th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Pingback from GPS on 8310 - BlackBerryForums.com : Your Number One BlackBerry Community
June 7th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Pingback from manual for blackberry 8310
June 10th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Pingback from GPS on 8310 - BlackBerryForums.com : Your Number One BlackBerry Community
November 27th, 2007 at 1:36 am
HeavyGod
Really good and really interesting post. I expect (and other readers maybe :)) new useful posts from you!
Good luck and successes in blogging!
December 12th, 2007 at 10:26 am
123
The phone wont run google maps for some reason.Any ideas?
December 30th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Joe
Do you have the Enterprise Sever edition? I tried to download the .alx version…the only Blackberry option other than Windows & Palm and it would not load. I’m not sure if you did some else. Any help would be greatly appreciated since you are THE only one that seems to have this working!
Thanks in advance,
Joe
December 30th, 2007 at 11:04 pm
Joe
I got this to work with the latest version of Google Maps.
Thanks for this Outstanding infomation!!
Joe
December 31st, 2007 at 1:24 am
Patrick
Hi. I just got the Blackberry 8310 and I would like to download the googlemaps app. I notice in your article above that you suggest we don’t download the suite for this app.
You say you have version 1.6.4. The version that is listed on their site is 2.0 something. How do I know it this is the suite? I’m not sure if I want to chance downloading it and then having trouble with my phone. I’m not very savy when it comes to messing with downloads and removing stuff.
I hope you are able to help.
Thanks
January 1st, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Matthias Zeller
Hello Patrick and others,
just point your Blackberry browser to google.com/gmm and follow the instructions to download and install Google Maps for Blackberry. I just checked and the latest version right now is 2.0.1 (when I wrote the blog entry it was 1.6.4). I upgraded to 2.0.1 without problems (GPS still works). Also I installed the Google Mail app on my Blackberry and it did not break the Maps app or GPS.
Hope this helps.
Matthias
January 1st, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Jason
Hi I was looking at getting the blackberry although without the blackberry plan and just using mediamax plan for $19.99 I heard there is a medianet browser, I and many others do not need blackberry email features, would I be able to use the media net browser to download at google.com/gmm?
Thanks..I like to try and avoid giving ATT as much money as possible and I’m sure others who come across this post would like to know as well. Great info you should consider text linking to the curve 8310 through Amazon affiliate program I’m think they pay some pretty nice commissions
January 2nd, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Matthias Zeller
Hello Jason,
I got the Blackberry through the company plan at Adobe, so I use the ATT enterprise service for Blackberry. However as long as you get a Blackberry with a data plan that allows web browsing you should be able to download Google Maps and use it with the integrated GPS.
Cheers,
Matthias
PS: Thanks for the Amazon Affiliate Program tip
January 4th, 2008 at 8:31 am
Nic
Thanks alot for the help Mathias,i will definitly be back for more tips.
January 9th, 2008 at 7:45 am
cholero
Great post, thanks!
Have you tried using blackberry maps? I downloaded on my Curve 8310 on the AT&T network and it worked great for a few minutes, but now I cant get my GPS to find any satellites no matter what program I use, even in the advanced options refresh I don’t find anything, Tried outside in various places. Any thoughts?
January 10th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
cholero
After chatting with AT&T service reps they had me power down the Curve 8310, take out the battery for a minute, then put the battery back in. After I did that the GPS started working again, both with Google Maps and Blackberry Maps. Blackberry maps is not as detailed as google maps, but it has the other features of showing you your speed and changing the orientation of the map according to your direction, which is nice if you are driving.
January 11th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Annie
Hi, Matthias -
Love your site. Question re step #1 above: how can I “make sure GPS is working” if I have to subscribe to Telenav to get started? I bought the AT&T Curve 8310 today, and the only GPS icon I can find is the Telenav one (in Applications), which won’t let me get into maps until I’ve elected to sign up with them (even if only for a 30-day free trial, which I’m sure they’ll charge me at the end of). Can you please clarify how I’m supposed to start this process without signing up with Telenav? By skipping it, and just going straight into Advanced Options/GPS, I don’t get to see a “Refresh GPS” option. Thanks!!
January 11th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Matthias Zeller
Hello Annie,
no you do not need to subscribe to Telenav to use the GPS functionality of your Blackberry. Go to Options -> Advanced Options -> GPS and then hit the context menu button (the button with the keypad symbol left of the scrollwheel).
This brings up the option to Refresh GPS and after about 30 seconds it should indicate the number of satellites and your GPS location (you might not be able to connect inside a building). Then you proceed to got to google.com/gmm in your Blackberry Browser and follow my instructions above.
Good luck and have fun with your Backberry.
Matthias
January 12th, 2008 at 4:58 pm
Annie
Oh my god, it worked! Matthias, you are awesome. I migrated from an 8700c (7230 before that), so it takes a little getting used to things like the trackball and the context menu button. Clear as day now, and I have Google Maps, thank to you! Appreciate the community service. (-:
Annie
January 22nd, 2008 at 10:38 am
Andy
Matthias,
I don’t think that your method described above is truly using the Curve’s on-board GPS system as you (and I) are intending… As you may or may not know, recent versions of google maps can approximate your location based on information from cell towers alone without a dedicated GPS system (I think they call it AGPS). I just upgraded from a Pearl to the Curve. The Pearl has no GPS, but my version of google maps that I had was able to pinpoint my location using this AGPS technique to various levels of accuracy (3-1600 meters).
Now on the 8310… even though there is a permissions setting for google maps to allow GPS usage, I don’t think the Curve is reporting this info –so the program is simply reporting your location based on this less accurate AGPS method. To this end I tried the following: in google maps permissions I DENY the location (GPS) permission and reboot the phone. Once it’s back up and running I check the GPS status (Options – Advance – GPS), I was indoors but was connected to 7 satellites and had an accuracy of 4.5 meters. Then I launch google maps and press 0 for my location. It found me, but only had an accuracy of 1600 meters. I then exited maps, went into permissions, and switched location (GPS) to ALLOW. Then restart the phone and try again. When it loaded, google maps again had my location only to within 1600 meters.
From what I understand AT&T (in my case, but could be any cell provider) restricts the GPS device to work exclusively with the programs that they want –in my case TeleNav, which costs you $10 extra per month. I’ve been searching forums for ways to fully unlock the GPS feature of the phone, but have not found out how yet. My first order of business was to uninstall the push to talk (PTT) software; I finally got that sorted out, so now I’m trying to figure this out.
What do you think?
January 22nd, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Bill Davis
Matthias,
After I have downloaded the program and gone thru the steps you posted I can’t get the Google Maps to respond at all. I push the trackwheel and nothing happens. After about two minutes it returns to the home screen. “HELP” and THANKS…
Bill
January 24th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Matthias Zeller
Andy,
I had Google Maps working with the Curve GPS even before Google released the Maps version which has AGPS. That was Google Maps version 1.x (can’t remember exactly which version, but before they announced AGPS). I also use AT&T, so clearly AT&T does not lock the usage of the GPS in the Curve. Since then I have upgraded to the latest version of Google Maps, so I will run some tests to see if it still picks up the GPS or defaults to the less accurate AGPS method.
Matthias
January 24th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Matthias Zeller
Bill,
it is difficult to track the issue down remotely. Do you have a Blackberry 8310? Just can suggest to try to de-install and then install again.
Sorry it did not work for you.
Matthias
January 24th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Patrick
Matthias:
I wanted to thank you for the directions/instructions for getting the google maps to my blackberry curve. I’ve downloaded and it works perfectly; don’t know why I was concerned about it. The satellite view is awesome by the way — shows the actual house and motorhome as well as the oil stain in the driveway.
I’m now a confirmed Crackberry.
Patrick
January 25th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Matthias Zeller
Patrick,
Welcome to the club!
January 25th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
Matthias Zeller
Andy,
I did some further tests using Google Maps 2.0.1 (AT&T Network). When I use maps and I am out of satellite reach (e.g. in my office) it defaults to AGPS, easy to see because it states a radius of accuracy. Even when I move and reach an area with satellite and it seems to stay in that mode. However when I close Google Maps and open it again (in an area with satellite reception) it switches to use the internal GPS and provides exact location (without radius) and direction into which I am moving.
Cheers,
Matthias
February 1st, 2008 at 1:04 pm
andy
Yeah, I messed around with it some more and came to the same conclusion. Google seems to grab the gps when it’s availabe and uses the agps when it isn’t. In the test I ran above I failed to notice that I did not have gps reception when I was indoors. It said it was accurate within 4.5m, but that was last updated earlier in the day when I was outside. So both trials I ran were using agps only.
I stand corrected. Good tip on enabling this feature. Thanks!
February 4th, 2008 at 2:04 am
Ethiya Ali
Hi !!
Wonderful writing and a very interesting reading. I want to know 2 things in particular.
I have a BB-8310. In my area GPS doesnt work and I dont want to retain the GPS application in my phone either to get tracked by anyone. Can I delete the GPS application like I have deleted others like BB massanger and Yahoo massanger in my BB. I tried to delete GPS but couldn’t get any success.
Secondly, is it possible to delete the Enterprise Activation Application in my BB-8310 ?? I just dont use my BB for emailing.
I love it for its being a nice cute calling phone. Thats it.
Can you please guide me how to uninstall/delete/remove permanently the Enterprise Activation thingy and GPS from my BB.
Thanks Much.
Ethiya Ali
February 7th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Rob
Hey, this was a great post. It helped me out immensely. Thanks!
February 12th, 2008 at 9:55 am
MB
Do you know if you have to use the data package after downloading Google Maps? Will the GPS feature work when not using a data package. I am looking at this phone to replace a phone and serve as a GPS and portable media player, but don’t need the email, browser, etc right now. but if there is the extra cost of the data package every month, I might as well just buy a regular GPS device. What do you think?
February 12th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Mike
Thanks! this really helped
February 12th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Matthias Zeller
MB,
yes you will need a data plan since Google Maps requires an internet connection. I really wouldn’t consider the Blackberry if you don’t use email or the browser.
Matthias
February 25th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
RW
Do you have to pay an additional monthly charge to use the built in GPS feature on the Blackberry Curve? Or will having an unlimited data plan cover the GPS usage as well? (Or is using the built in GPS free?)
February 28th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Matthias Zeller
RW,
the GPS usage is free. You will need a data plan to access Google Maps, since it is an application which requires access to the internet.
Cheers,
Matthias
March 1st, 2008 at 6:20 am
RK
Does GPS work in other countries like in China or it only works in North America?
March 5th, 2008 at 1:41 am
Vicki
Hi,
I have followed what you say to the letter but to no avail - every time I try to run Google maps it just freezes and locks the whole phone up. I have tried uninstalling and re-installing about 7 times and the same thing happens every time. The phone is brand new (8310) and i’m in the UK. I have even tried to use the older version 1.6.4 that is a bit better because it starts to load the program and gets upto 4 (progress bar half way) then stops for a few minutes then comes back with a network error. The Gprs is working fine and the phone is connecting to the internet fine. Any ideas (Please,please !!)
March 7th, 2008 at 7:36 am
Rick
Matthias,
A note of appreciation. I’m a new, not very adept, 8310 owner. I found this hint by googling “maps-gps-8310″ etc. I followed your instructions and, mirabile dictu, it worked!
As a sixtyish guy I sometimes have occasion to think how great the new internet age is. I have a little phone, the size of an index card, that does all this great stuff. I push a button and it knows where I am (well, pretty close)! It tells me how to go where I want to go. I need help with it and some guy in California (I’m in Connecticut) who I never met gives me great instructions. He doesn’t even want any money for it! I’m not sure if younger people understand how the world has changed in their lifetimes. It’s beyond science fiction.
I now plan to scan all your other ideas. I wish there were something I could do for you– but that’s also science fiction.
OK. I do have a question. When I edit permissions in Google Maps. I have three options– connections- interactions and user data- with the choice of allow-custom or deny. I hove connections and user data at allow and interactions at custom– not for any particular reason. How should I choose among these?
Thanks to you and all other contributors.
Rick
March 10th, 2008 at 3:36 am
dbaser
I have the same problem as Vicki.
The phone freezes and I have to turn it off.
Phone is 4 days old.
March 10th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Soh
Is workef in my bb 8310! Thanks for ur information !!! I from malaysia country also can run the google map here!!! Thanks u brother!
March 14th, 2008 at 10:21 am
Sean
Thanks so much Matthias…I was just about to post the exact same thing Andy did but now that you’ve clarified it, I’m anxious to try it outside of my high-rise where i’ve been testing it
March 19th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Bill Davis
I commented on Jan 22nd that I could not get Google maps to work. I have just today been able to use Google Maps. It would freeze up and not function. I would then have to turn the phone off and back on.
I finally called ATT and the Rep had me do a hard “reset” by taking out the battery while the BB is on. I left it out for about 2 minutes and then turned it back on. After a reboot I downloaded Google Maps and followed the onscreen instructions and it worked for the first time. This might help your readers. Thank you for your previous help.
Bill Davis
March 20th, 2008 at 7:43 am
dbaser
I did what Bill Davis did and it is now working!
Thx
March 25th, 2008 at 12:58 am
Ted
The phone wont run google maps for some reason.Any ideas? the version 2.0.3. please help me.!!!!
April 2nd, 2008 at 2:18 am
hilary roberts
Hi, I am new to this mainly because I now have the Blackberry 8310 with GPS. I followed the instructions and have successfully loaded google maps and it seems to have found me (or nearest to me).
On a normal Sat Nav like Garmin or Tom Tom, I am able to load my favourite addresses. I press * (A) key and it brings up favourites but I don’t seem to be able to add anymore new addresses. Is it possible? If yes, how is it done?
If it can be done, does google maps act like a Sat Nav i.e. directs you to the loaded address?
I read that the Tele Map tool does it but then I have to pay for that service and it cost £40 per year in England.
I would appreciate very much if anyone can help me.
Thanks
Hilary
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Alejandro
Matthias
I have my new BB 8310 and very happy with this “spielzeug”, (I came from a treo 650). My spanish and german is better than “Englisch” (you surely understand better german) but lets go practice.
I read your intresting pages, Im forest egeneer in Chile and work a lot with gps, maps and data so this is for me the best solution at outdoors. We only have here “als Wild” the smallest deer of the world (like a fox terrier) and some pumas a lot of “wachteln” so you can come and shoot them all.
BB maps (tele atlas) only shows here maps for 30 km zoom up, and you can see only the nice limit of chile.
Now starting using the google maps.
I loaded Google maps and it doesent read satellites.
After uninstall and read your good comments, I start from new and started with gps reading satellites, (and try to save the data and i see a fast message or prompt wo says a error of null data or something like).
After that I try to start Google maps and it freezes all and there is nothing to do only a reboot taking batteries out for a while.
Do you have any Idea ?
Thanks
Alejandro
April 3rd, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Peter
Is it possible to predownload maps in Blackberry 8310 and run GPS without dataplan or internet access ?
April 4th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Maxwell Glasson
Best BB find ever. period.
As a Real Estate Appraiser, this is saving me heaps of time.
Cheers!
April 6th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Scott
I have an 8310 Blackberry Curve. Under advanced options it has a “none” for GPS. Do I have to sign up with a provider? Where can I get GPS? Where do I download Google maps.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:01 am
Rick
Matthias,
It seems you have a wealth of knowledge with BB 8310 can you
Help me to figure out why my voice dialing won’t work. When I say someone’s name it gives me someone totally different, can you please help.
Thanks Rick
April 14th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
jason
This seemed to work wonders, after following the above instructions my aprox location went from 1600 meters to 3 meters. I just got the 8310 curve and downloaded this (saves $10/month).
April 29th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Stephen
Matthias,
Any reason to think that the JUST released Pearl 8110 with GPS would not work in the same way as you have described for the 8310?
Thanks.
April 30th, 2008 at 3:39 am
brickhouse
it was so easy to set up all i did was everything you told me…
I love getting things for free thats man..
May 5th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
zul
Hi
I’m from Malaysia. Why my blackberry 8310 could not install maps blackberry files
May 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Paul
Matthias,
If I’ve already downloaded Google maps to my 8310 would I also need an internet connection on my phone to use it’s GPS or is there a work around.
Stand alone GPS doesn’t require an internet connect and I don’t use my phone to surf just to text so I was hoping not to incur the extra fees.
Thanks,
Paul
May 19th, 2008 at 5:43 am
Mark Bloom
Hi Matthias my question to you is when using google maps on the BB Curve 8310 do you get charged for data use or does it come free since the gps is intergrated
Thanks,
Mark
May 29th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Matthias Zeller
Mark,
when you use Google Maps you get charged for data use (unless you have an unlimited data plan). While you get your GPS coordinates for free from the integrated GPS receiver Google Maps retrieves the map data (images) via the internet connection of your Blackberry.
Cheers,
Matthias
May 29th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Matthias Zeller
Paul,
yes, Google Maps requires an internet connection since the map data is retrieved over the internet (same as using Google maps on a PC).
Cheers,
Matthias
June 9th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Brian Reynolds
Matthias, thanks for your great info. I cannot get the GPS data source to refresh when I hit the menu key. It continues to say NONE and will not allow access for refresh. Any ideas? thanks for the support.
June 9th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Brian Reynolds
Matthias after review I have determined that I have the curve 8300 and it does not support GPS. only the 8310 version does. Hope this helps.
June 16th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Marek
I have a 8310 with GPS and the current version of Google Maps 2.2.0 … the problem is that it does not want to see my GPS no matter what I do. It always just uses teh cell tower triangulation technique which is good to 1600 meters ;-(
Any ideas? I have tried what is said here but still does not work.
June 19th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
JTR
Just downloaded with version 2.2 and works great
July 4th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
wyld
Good show Matthias, we do a lot with gps in Australia (refer http://www.trackstick.com.au ) and i thought there would be issues with this but going through your steps it works fine, a big trick here was taking the battery out for a minute and then putting it back in and we got the gps working a treat, no probs with google maps download, google maps in metro brisbane down to street level and accuracy about 5-10 meters…